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If I were the dev-team I would just say...... fuck it...... we're releasing it in 1 week....... go and play with your dicks for a while.... and we'll get back to you.... you ungrateful sons of bachelors......
That's what I'd do if I was the dev-team....... or I'd release it straight away..... because I could..... because it would be my decision and not some assholes polluting my blog....
So there..... now there's no doubt that some people think I'm an asshole for saying these things..... but I don't care.... wait till next week you pathetic beggars..... don't you realise that the name of this software makes you all into begging turds?????
You're all being fucking PWNNNNNNED by the dev-team instead of Apple.... now do you get it you assholes... stop fucking complaining and let them get on with it.....
i mean. these Dev Team works real Hard for Us you know. and These idiots still
Complaint with everything.
Go for it Dev Team!
Cydia does everything you need. Why do you need installer? IMHO installer should have never been updated to firmware 2.0.
//Rob
updates coming soon!
Why should we still bother with Installer, a technically inferior solution, now that it will have hardly any software released for it?
We can install Installer later.
Why not release now for inpatient ones ? :(
It could be simply added as a package for Cydia, but that would make Installer in some way "subservient" to Cydia, and they don't want that. RipDev will whine and bitch about how their technically inferior solution for applications isn't getting the respect it deserves.
It's incredibly stupid. ABANDON INSTALLER NOW. THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT TO EXIST.
Ditch Installer and release Pwnage so we can get the nice fixes in 2.0.1, which largely out weigh any crap Installer 4 BETA will bring us.
Why do you ppl keep saying Installer would Mimic cydia?
Wasn't Installer the first "Iphone Installer program" on the market (ok...not on 2.0...anyhow)?
So I believe Cydia rather mimiced Installler...and furthermore I believe Installer to have a better user interface and usability than Cydia.
So far I can't remember any real advanteges of cydia, while Instastaller remains the "real deal" for me.
So Cydia has "no right to exist" if we are in any position to judge free software others create for us to make life easier and better.
Maybe everyone should decide for himself what to use...so it's just fair that the dev-team supports both programs leaving us the choice to either install the apps or to leave it.
If Cydia is not installed on your iphone 2.0, Installer 4 will not have bsd subsystem and ssh ( 2 very basic piece of software you need ). So you will have to install it unless someone ports bsd subsystem :)
The amount of time Ripdev spent on developing a free software from ground up for 2.0 (Installer) they could have made Cydia(it is open source) more user friendly.
lol that was stupid, but w/e point taken
CYDIA FTW
I'd be curious to know what you found in it that did not exist in Cydia.
They chose to cut their work. Good for them. Maybe they'll spend the "extra" time on the 3G unlock or maybe they'll go have a celebratory beer. I hope it's the latter.
For example, I am HAPPY with this news. Having the best of three worlds (Cydia, Installer and AppStore) is the best than only the best of two worlds (Cydia and AppStore).
Also everything that shines is not diamond !!! You need a solid package management system to get it working and cydia is based on debian-apt which is very vary stable!!!!
Also everything that shines is not diamond !!! You need a solid package management system to get it working and cydia is based on debian-apt which is very vary stable!!!!
You will still need cydia to install BSD Subsystem & winterboard & openssh, So why do you want another package management tool like Installer ??
I seriously think Ripdev should not have started work on Installer 4.0 from ground up and should have contributed to Cydia.
Anyways, I'd rather have it today and not have Installer :)
Oh well...
Thanks team! You're awesome.
This is not the place for Installer vs. Cydia (going on Round 12 now....).
And by the looks of it, we have all just waived our privelage of having continual communication with Dev Team in between thier software releases. These guys are trying to please everyone as best they can, and this bitchin' and moaning happens every single time theres an update.
If you life is dependent on new iphone stuff, please, return your iphone I dont want you to have one
adding new sources-feature will be in cydia soon. ;)
on 1.1.4 we, specially I choosed cydia cause it has all the nice unix tools and not that crap bsd-subsystem bullshit.
the tools are tested and working fine. if i choose installer and not cydia (will cydia be included for future?) in pwnage 2.0.2 ca is safely change root-pw. with "passwd"? that was a problem on 1.1.4.
or will all the unix tools be available in installer, too? Or will i have to drive on two rails in future, too?
I have not used Installer.app for about 3 months now. Nearly everything is available via Cydia!
You need summerboard to be ported to 2.0
Also winterboard is there in cydia.. Go try it out its way more advanced than Summerboard
checkout http://sleepers.net/news/2008/08/05/winterboard...
And winterboard is being developed by saurik so count out the possibility of it being available in INSTALLER
but it's worthless now and if it was cydia vs. installer...
cydia wins hands down...
But yes, makes sense. Looking forward to it tomorrow, then.
cheers sour
PS check out an icon in you phone, If its already 2.0 pwned.
Thank you for your restless work!
ok. finally i can get some sleep .
Lol.. I think someone needs some sleep.. it's 2.0.2 at least! ;-)))
No problem, we 'll wait some more then...
anyway, cydia is working very well and i can't see the need for another install-application, who wants three different ways to download an install apps on a mobilephone...?
Let them TEST it first! Just like the devteam test their releases! Don't release a beta!!!
//Rob
i think you meant 2.0.2? right?
Keep up the excellent work!
installer 4 included is great news!!!!
Anywho, you guys are awesome as always! I wish I can donate some food or something since you won't accept money :(
Thanks for all you guys do!
I wish I had never gotten into this.
it seems iphone hacking is not your forte.
If you managed to brick 3 phones you must seriously misunderstand the language being used in the 10 hours of research you did.
Maybe it would have paid you some effort to do some of that research before the errors.
Oh and maybe you should have given up after the first try,
In general your local Apple Store is never going to have an actual a Mac Genius.
They make too much money elsewhere.
So no wonder they couldn't fix it.
Words cannot describe your idiocy.
How about you do a little MORE research on what my problem instead of thinking of a work to call me.
installer doesn't unlock your iphone 3G - pwnage tool will (but not in the next version).
Cheers,
Kind Regards
scnr
those who want the *old one* ;-) can get it from there, or manually or...just hold on waiting ;-p
iphone devs: rock on -- ignore the pissers and moaners that want their p0wnage tool now.
whiney bitches: shut up and deal -- the devs work hard and unless you are working hard on this take what you can get; an awesome, well tested, free product that you can use by the grace of others that work hard and do what is best for everyone.
great work dev team i dont mind waiting, peace out from northern ireland
rock on!
"I'm a retard and updated to 2.0.1 and now I can't install my jailbroken apps".
Dev team, love your work, keep it up and thanks for breaking us all of Apple's mold.
Seriously, maby you should've asked how many people where interested in installer.app (beta version).
A poll would be in place.
BTW I love your app and I can wait. If i was that fucking impatient I would have already upgraded to 2.0.1 and waited for the Jailbreak.
One question though with the new Pwnage...
As stupid as I am, I updated my iPhone (1st gen) to the 2.0.1 version, and as it didn't block my phone, I decided to Restore it as i was experiencing massive dialer crashes and then it started to deny my SIM card. Tried to downgrade number of times but unsuccessfully... Will this new release unlock my phone again, or will I be forced to back to my old expensive carrier?
I don't wanna pay 14 bucks per Mb for EDGE.. haha...
Keep up the good work!
fingers crossed
Seams that my phone for some reason denise the .ipsw or something... Doesn't matter if its my own custom .ipsw or the original one from apple... Im crossing my fingers that the new release of the Pwnage will solve the problem for me...
PS. The funny thing is that when i bought the thing 8 months ago it was unlocked... bought it from orange and started using it on swisscom directly... Somehow it got re-locked to orange again... don't ask me how it happened... Im just very confused right now :S
haha
wow you're so cool, really, congrats.
ever heard of proxies?
You rather stop being a dickhead yourself..
Now go on ban me..
To Dev Team, do what you think is best, and don't give a damn to those ungrateful scums.
You guys just take your time - everyone (maby except Apple.inc) apriciates your work, even the negative jackasses posting here..
if it wasn't for you guys hard work there would be no jailbreak at all --PLEASE REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE--
Keep up the good work
Br assured, we apriciate it :-D
People really are heavily resisting to grasp the concept that this is not a democracy or a company where you can demand stuff. Go team, do your thing, I'll wait for my RSS reader to deliver the good news.
Keep up the good work !
congratz on the 2.0.2. Where do we donate for your work?
Thank you!!
IphoneDev Thank you! You are doing an amazing job! Keep up the good work!
If you ever visit New York, I'll have a cold one waiting for you!
Thanks guys!
So I didn't know what i was doing and updated my jailbroken iPhone to the legit 2.0.1 version of firmware. Let's just say my phone is out of order until your next release is made. (judging by what you guys said in a previous blog post)
Can't wait. :P
It's not a huge hassle but definitely was one of the first things I noticed that Apple polished with their app store. It was one of the first of many, "Whoa cool!" 's out of my mouth :)
Thanks for all your hard work!
- Matt
EDIT: I just realized I posted this on the DEV TEAM blog, when it should have been a question for Cydia or Installer guys... Either way, sharing my thoughts!
WHY WAIT FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE THE SAME CONTENT AS CYDIA.....
WHAT DO U THINK?
The reason they are waiting for Installer 4 is politics; I can't see any other reason. Unless one of the devs wants to enlighten us.
"Apple's 2.0.1 firmware update accomplishes what hackers had claimed Apple couldn't do: It relocks an iPhone to AT&T. The original boast was predicated on the fact that through all of its prior updates, Apple had never updated the baseband (cellular radio) firmware. Well, 2.0.1 breaks this tradition, and it breaks unlocking."
Noobs, Apple have updated the baseband with every new firmware...
//Rob
You guys have all the time you'll need to do a wonderful job, again! ;)
My iPhone is smiling..
you all make a really good job! thanks for our effort!
Your hard work has gotten very popular lately, and with so much demand, you are bound to get a few assholes here and there.
The majority of us here are extremely grateful for your hard work.
Thanks again.
Guys, be thankful and patient! I for one, appreciate what these people have done (and are doing); not to mention the fact that now we have an ongoing blog (with actual reponse-responses). Not sure if you've noticed but, there's no ads or donate buttons around.
Good luck! Cheers. Keep it coming.
/mp
pwnage is a terrific tool for those of us that need jailbroken and unlocked iphones and your efforts a greatly appreciated.
I have no comment on your decision to wait a little longer - your work your decision! I am eagerly waiting, but I can be patient for a while longer yet.
What I do suggest is that if it is practical you allow users to choose to install cydia, installer or both. It does seem from the comments there are a few stronger opinions about which one to use and why.
Again, thanks for your efforts.
thats wat the pwnagetool 2.0.2 does.
Thank you for al your work
Koszonom szepen
As I am working in IT branche I really know what hard work it is and I really respect all the work you´ve done and the hours you spent.
Every single one of you guys really can be proud of this work.
I must admit I was disappointed by the delay very much in a blue balls sort of way.
I am curious of what installer will bring to the table vs. cydia. Is it just the new slick interface (it does like pretty darn cool)? in the end though, there is still only a handful of ported apps, no? It sounds like people think that when installer comes up a ton of software will magically appear. (if it does sweet! but from what i've read we still got to wait for people to port apps...)
Anyway, have to go take a cold shower now. So I can get all excited again tomorrow!
TIA iphone dev team!
Pour le français maitrisant mal l'anglais, tout est traduit là
http://sosiphone.com/blogiphone/?p=473
thx
everyone else: quit your bitching
Thanks iPhoneDevTeam!!!
Iskondi
Why dont you call the new pwnage something like 2.0.1.1 so that its major.minor version will be aligned with the F/W version.
This will probably save some people trouble and confusions.
We´re all impatient and excited, but there is really no excuse for being ungrateful, the freakin thing is free...
Keep up the awsome work guys!
You´re guys are helping too much us !
Thanx a lot and good vibes to all !
Keep up the good work. U rock
Much love from Robin Hood land!!!
Chase
Iphonedev: you really have a lot of patient listening to all this crap, you don't need to explain yourself but you still respect them with your response. You're doing a great PR work for free, I wouldn't be able to hold myself from banning each and every one of them.
Thank you for sharing with us your reasons, and I can't thank you enough for your work.
I really do hope you are having fun doing it.
So quit ya fvcking bickering about Cydia/Installer -- and appreciate what both developers have done, and will hopefully continue to do for a long time to come.
albeit, beggars and be choosers!!!
FTW Dev Team!
beggards can't be choosers!!
:D
Just as a side note, I think it'd be cute if you guys could have your version number correspond with the firmware version that it will work on. Maybe you could call this one 2.0.1.1 to catch up, and the next that works on 2.0.2 will be 2.0.2.
Just a thought..
i will mirror you tool if you want...
just email me with questions or demands ;)
i will mirror you tool if you want...
just email me with questions or demands ;)
Now.. that over, after spending hours installing apps, getting my winterboard themes working properly, installing all the ROMs for the NES emulator, what I want to know is, when pwnage 2.0.2 comes out for the 2.0.1 firmware, will we have to restore the iphone again to install it?... if thats the case, Will loose everything and have to start over?.. is there a way to back everything up, like a clone or something, so I can put everything back easily?... or will Pwnage Tool 2.0.2 modify the "update" 2.0.1 firmware and allow an in-place upgrade leaving all the apps and settings alone?
hmmm... would like to know..
Hope it’s just an optional installation, Cydia with it’s apt backend is far superior.
To Dev Team, do what you think is best, and don't give a damn to those ungrateful scums.
GREAT job!
I think they know exactly what they're doin, and waiting for the new release is not that hard....
u want lots of bugs or a destroyed iphone?
then post comments like that....
I totally love you guys. Thanks for all your effort! It's thanks to you we even have AppStore.
Even though I don't know what new Installer will bring us, I think it's a good decision and I support you in it.
Keep up the good work guys!
pls ignore the ungrateful idiots.. =/
they only see their(!) phone and not your working time.
i hope you will never stop helping us !
there are alot greatful people which will always support you !
i would also spend you some money just to show you the respect.
i know you guys dont take money but id send you beer if you want!
What time on Friday, and in which Time Zone, will you release?
</sarcasm>
Let's see who reads what they see.
DevTeam ROCKS!!
;D
and to the haters:
fuck the cock suckers that can't be patient. it's one goddamn day, get off your lazy ass and do something time consuming instead of venting your frustration out on the dev team online.
See you guys tomorrow!
Why Installer 4.0? Cydia Does it all !
Happy memories are from the past ! Just go with a true winner!
Just be happy you have a dev team that works hard to make your device do more things that you morons couldnt come up with yourself!
C-Boo out
Also, who gives a crap about installer, cydia is a million times better anyway.
Take your time and make it right is ok with me IphoneDevteam.
Thank you for all of your work!
WICKED KITTEN YOU"RE A FUCKING TURDE...........
Waiting til tomorrow is fine but giving the reason why you're postponing it is with Installer doesn't make any sense.
Cheers!
u got me all freaking excited. im sick of 2.0.1. but i was sick of text and contact lag (still am actually nice bug fixes) now i have to wait even longer!!!!!!!
These people spend hours and hours on free software and still you kids are complaining. It's like it's your birthday tomorrow and you can't wait. Show some respect and leave britney alone, oh .. the dev team alone. It's done when it's done. Your not paying a cent, so shut up.
Respect to all the hard work, mates
I am just wondering if there is a possibility that the 3g might never be unlocked. I currently have a new 3g but i'm moving to europe in a month. If there is a chance i won't be able to use it there any time in the foreseeable future, then i will return it.
Thank you in advance.
I, for one, would like to say THANK YOU whether the update comes today, tomorrow, next week, or whenever. I appreciate the work the iphonedev team does.
Yes, I'm anxious to have it. I also fully understand building the package YOU want to release. Excellence takes time.
Thanks again!
I understand why you are waiting for Installer, not everyone wants or likes cydia so giving everyone the choice of both is a good move. Personally i dont use either, as the only application i use is SSH for tethering (the -D parameter of the ssh application on OSX creates a socks proxy)...
Thanks again for a great product.
Gary
Thanks bra.
ps and are going through puberty
1) Many of us users are desperately waiting for the new pwnage so we can have a fix for the two most annoying bugs: the contact bug and the laggy keyboard bug. Installer, while a nice application, isn't this important at this moment in time. Its not even open source, while cydia is.
2) Its not like installer 4 is ready to go. You are slowing down the release on the presumption that they will actually release it. What if they dont? What if they say they arnt ready yet and will release it on sunday? You should be dictating the release cycle and not them.
3) Wouldnt it be possible to install installer via cydia later once they release it?
But again, its your app and i'm very thankful for your work, so please take this as constructive criticism for the future, and nothing else.
Basically, I just wanted to say that you guys rock, and that your work is really appreciated.
What is all the moaning about, i mean a day longer for the pwntool 2.0.2 to come out like it's not a MONTH or a Week. C'mon give the Devteam a break, they are doing their best to give you the best.
Plus just like all of us they have there own life, jobs, maybe family.
Thanks Dev Team, Good work.
After reading a majority of the comments posted today along with previous ones, I have become disgusted with the people here that demand ANYTHING of you. The fact is that you guys have come together to release a product to the iPhone community that is worlds ahead of anything that was expected. You did this solely to help other people. The idea that there are still people commenting in this blog, demanding for more from a team that probably devotes over 80% of their FREE TIME away from work to build such an amazing piece of software, will continue to baffle me. I believe that every time you release a new version of the PwnageTool it is a privilege for me to be able to download it (not a right). I don't think I can fully express how upset I currently am at this online community and how thankful I am that you continue to release new versions of your software and put up with the crap that people say. I know there are others that feel the same as me, as can be seen by some comments from earlier today.
A big thank you for your continuing efforts!!!
Just want to tell you that I'm following your blog every single day to read about your developement on the area and I get really worried when you write "when/IF we can unlock" - how far away are you from an unlock, would be nice to hear about your progress on the matter.
Ever so thankfull but waiting anxciously =0)
Just want to clarify an small thing in your statement
quoted: "do not update your 3G device with iTunes unless you do it via PwnageTool 2.0.2 (this means you’ll need to create a custom .ipsw with PwnageTool 2.0.2 and install it using iTunes) "
What does it really mean? I think it need a bit of explanation since everyone is knowing about FW 2.0.1 and you didn't say to create a custom .ipsw with FW 2.0.1 or FW 2.0. Since the Pwnage 2.0 work with FW 2.0, then I suppose this Pwnage 2.0.2 will work with FW 2.0.1 right???
BTW, what different between Post (unverified) and check the box Verify my post? Thanks
i had my first introduction with apt while using ubuntu (dapper at the time). it was not that long ago but long enough to notice that apt never once broke a dependency. i could say the same with cydia so far.
in most cases, two or more is better than one. not in the case of a platform package manager. there can only be one, there must only be one (not counting appstore of course). the community only need one. i think it's better for repository maintainers, developers and users.
and i hope that cydia will be the one.
I *do* want to stress/add to something you said: there should be only ONE package manager on the device. I'm only talking about what is put onto a particular device - both Cydia and Installer can exist as choices, but only ONE should be managing packages on the device, IMO.
Here's a somewhat complicated example (probably doesn't belong on this forum, but I'll go ahead and write it as I'm thinking about it):
If you have both Cydia and Installer on the phone, and they are both managing 'packages' (but differently), I can see there being problems (regardless of how good the new Installer's dependency checking is).
For example, lets say you install something with Installer, that requires "BSD subsystem". Installer's dependency checking installs that (including some global binaries into "/usr/bin").
Then, you go to Cydia and install something that also requires "BSD subsystem". Cydia installs that on top of what was done by Installer. This may or may not be a compatible version of "BSD subsystem" - let's assume the binaries are identical for now.
The user then goes back to Installer and uninstalls the app that had the "BSD subsystem" requirement. Installer's dependency checking sees that no other Installer-based packages require "BSD subsystem" (and Installer doesn't know about Cydia package management), so it removes it (plus binaries in "/usr/bin", etc). Now, go back to the app that you installed with Cydia - it won't find the "BSD subsystem" binaries that it needs.
I haven't used the new Installer - maybe it's also based on "apt"??? If so, then maybe both of the package managers (Cydia + Installer) could co-exist on the device. But, if they don't work together on package management, there could really be a mess if you use both.
EDIT: The above is more theoretical - I haven't looked into how the package managers actually work - maybe there are safeguards against the above scenario (it just seems like a likely outcome of having two separate managers installed).
Again: I have no problem with people wanting/using Installer instead of Cydia - I just see there being problems with using both on the device.
The other issue mentioned above is having multiple sets of repositories and the mess that could be - I'm not as worried about that (although I could see some apps only being released for one repository format, which could then force users to use both Installer + Cydia).
- Paulb
I have a question: Can I have Cydia and Installer both installed or will I have to pick only one to install?
However I was wondering about the current update. As far as I understand 2.0.1 has an update path in, unlike the 2.0. Does this mean that those of us running a pwned 2.0 firmware could build a new custom 2.0.1 IPSW and then use the "update"-feature of iTunes with that file or is there something that needs DFU-mode again?
NO PROBLEM WAITING ONE MORE DAY ! TOMORROW IS WAY FINE ! THANK YOU !
All kidding aside, I do get sick of the large number of OS X users who are happy to demand things from developers. Just be happy someone does it, because you sure don't...
Thank you for all your hard work devteam you guys are great!
omg srsly, we'll get it when we geet eeet. i just can't wait for mobileterminal again, the appstore ssh client is not a suitable replacement omg srsly.
always refreshing the Dev-Blog
"Waiting for a flash.
Not to brick into an Ash"
For I shall anticipate in pantience.
i HAZ 2.0 already....so dont rush for another 0.1
I love you.....dev-team
I do not mind waiting for reliability and stability...
Even it is a week or more... ;-)
This from a computer user from way way back in time... :-D
:-)
do you know when , days or weeks
because i accidently upgrade to the new version
and my iphone got lock again
For those of you posting "I want it now!!" CHILL OUT!! These guys are working very hard to provide you will a wonderful program. One that is tested and FREE!!
Since we are not compensating them, so then why are you so demanding? Go enjoy life for a while. Who knows, by the time you are done it may be release.
Really, dont botter with those stupid morons. I cant understand those who complain an moan. They really dont know how dumb they are. You guys are awsome, and have created the best cracking tool Ive ever seen in my whole life. Its simple, pretty, and have everything we want and more. And another thing ITS FREE.
I personally, prefer Installer then Cydia, and was crazy for this release. But others prefer Cydia then installer, and its their opinion. So delaying ONE freaking day, so we can get a way better tool, which can deliver the best from both worlds, is the best decision you guys have made.
Doesnt make any sense, releasing a tool today, then releasing another tool with installer support in the next day.
We all have to thank you guys a lot, cause if it wasnt for you, then we woudnt have this awsome tool we have to jailbreak our phone.
I cant understand those who complain, cause, when you guys are testing the tool, just to make sure we can get the best software possible, and safe, so we dont brick our phone, people go and complain.
When you guys delay the tool for just ONE freaking day, to get it way bether, and with installer support, people go and complain.
Go figure. You guys should get those retarded IPs, and release them a different tool. Like an iPhone Bricker, then maybe they would learn.
Anyway, thanks a lot from Brazil, and keep it that way.
Abras
Nevermind that Cydia could be used to install Installer...
you really rock !
there are many people (most of them) who are grateful for the amazing work your doing.
don't listen to the complaining bastards.
they are useless, here and everywhere.
so ashamed for them.
THANK YOU GUYS
My 2pp on Cydia/Installer: I really don't care if a developer uses Wise or InstallShield to deploy their software, they are means to an end. The same can be said of Cydia and Installer. Much of the whining is the lack of an elementary understanding of the significance these softwares play in the overall development process, which in this case is being dramatically exaggerated. You peeps are going to get your Winterboardz and your Monkeyballz either way, how you get them is a moot point. Especially since we don't pay anything for this stuff.
I think waiting for something stable is deff worth it.!
Thanks a million...
CALM DOWN !
We are all desperate, but none of us has the right to engage in the subsistence of direct, structural or verbal violence !!!
“Peace is what we have when creative conflict transformation takes place non-violently.” (Johan Galtung)
First I want to thank all of you who do this magnificent work. Really, magnificent.
I wish to jump on the opportunity "giving you guys all the features you want" to ask in form of a wish list if it would be possible to circumvent the POP email setup to include only headers or first x Kb to download, then select the mails we want the body to download too? (or do you know a good pop email prog?)
Not sure this is the right place to ask this but... Apple says this is a wanted bug. You know why ;-)
Thanks,
TT
its been 12 hrs since u guys made this comment.
The Dev Team provide a FREE service to all iPhone users and yet people are ungrateful that the release is postponed one friggin day? You do realize that they could just stop releasing their software to the public and just use it in their own closed group?
And the whole idea about releasing a beta software is that you want a group of people testing the software for bugs. In this case that group is the users of pwnage tool. If you don't like the Installer then just don't use it.
Stop your whining! Instead you should cheer them on and be supportive of the excellent work this group is doing.
I'm hoping for an unlock as I own a 3G iPhone locked to AT&T while I'm located in Sweden but I do not demand that the dev team should release one.
To the dev team: Excellent work and I admire your skills. Looking forward to more quality releases :)
I don't think we need installer but if so much people waiting for it then I'll wait.
Keep this way, you rocks!
thanks in advance
Hope you included mine :D
Greetings from Uruguay.
Should make this next release of PwnageTool version 2.0.1.1, to allow future versions of PwnageTool to match that of the iPhone (ie; PwnageTool 2.0.2.0 = iPhone 2.0.2) etc..
I have only 1 question
1) Can someone tell me if pwnagetool 2.0.2 will unclock the new firmware 2.1 in 1st generation iphone?
Thank you in advance!
Bloody get a life people - Go play on your Nintendo Poo or something...
Wellll.... I started to read the comments and then i realized if i ever want to get to bed and not read people complainng and yelling, that i should stop.
Some how i missed the 2.0.1 firmware update untill today, (that it was out). I think i shall update tomorrow and see how the apple did with it.
I am however worried about the 3G baseband, you say they update it with this update ?? and you might not be able to unlock if we update without the tool ??? thats scares the hell out of me, but i have ATT so im ok for the next 2 years at least, i doubt ill be changing but man, who knows what could happen, i could move out side the country and then be screwed over with still paying att and not having a phone.
BUT... I believe strongly that if the Dev team finds a way to hack this baseband it will be increasingly easier for them to hack the "updated" version.
QUESTION!!!! So if we update the 3g phones with the new tool, to firmware 2.0.1 we dont have to worry about the baseband ?
So release it
Maybe pwnageTool 2.0.2 will be announced on 08/08/08 at 08:08 GMT + 7 :d
Thanks for your work guys
tu ma nich so als ob du nich selber alle 30 mins aktualisiers und drauf wartes wie wir alle ^^
Guys, do you pay for anything ? Do you do anyting to help ? No. So shut the fuck up.
iphonedev - thanks a lot for all the involvement in the project.
On the one hand I hope apple will not hire any of you as it would kill all those fun stuffs, on the other hand ... could be a great job for you guys ;)
Cheers !
Probably interesting to know... I have an open Iphone 3G (Belgium)
'drid
What about to have posiibility to have 2.0.1 Jailbreak and Unlock (baseband) solution ??? I do not care about Installer.app 4... Cydia is the best tool I've ever used and this tool is technicaly right solution. It's very simple to run repository and maintain whatever you want ! ! ! I do not Think Installer is more important than 2.0.1 or 3G Baseband Unlock.
dear dev-team members please give us 2.0.1 baseband unlock and jailbreak. Installers and other cool stuff can be added later
Without your work I've be never have used my iphone in my country . . . Because Apple don't care about people, they want moooooooore money ! ! ! God DAMN Corporations ! ! !
THANK YOU
From the past few days m regularly checking the software to jail break & activate iphone firmware 2.0, 2G iphone
Plz let me knw wen will i able to jailbreak & activate my new iphone 2G with 2.0 Firmware...
n plz make the jailbreak process as simple as u did in 1.1.4 firmware...
Thanks & Regards
First of all keep the good work every member of the dev-team!!!
I'd like to ask onу question about pwnage tool:
If I UPDATE my iphone to the custom FW with more than 500 mb of system partition from the FW with usual size of system partition (=500mb), will it cause any problems to my iPhone? Please pay attention to the word UPDATE (not restore).
Kind Regards.
However great things are expected from you guys and all the best from Warsaw, Poland !!!!
cydia always crashes my iphone,
so i hope the installer 4 wont:)
regards from germany.)
Looking forward to it, but take your time :-)
Agreed Installer is very nice looking but it will not even have ssh/bsd subsystem installed unless cydia is installed or someone else ports them. Really ripdev guys you could have spent your time on improving cydia(its open source) rather than making installer from ground up for 2.0....
Anyways dev-team take your time, chill out, have beer and keep on making pwnage !!!!
Looking forward to the release...
And you will have to install cydia to get that :D :D :D :D
BTW sweet deal ReP DeV
To all the fucking dickheads who are complaining or moaning for the delay of PWNAGE TOOL:
Create your own unlock program and let it work the same day of APPLE firmware releases
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT 2.0.1 is 2 days OLD????????
2 days fucking idiots..
Let DEV-TEam work in peace and don't disturb them
The only thing you can say is "Thank's DEV-TEAM, I'am a stupid asshole and i'm waiting for you to solve my problems"
You are like kids that want immediately theirs shiny toys
Thanx DEV, i'll sens you soon a postcardo from Italy.
Do you like Florence?? ;-)
Thanks guys for all you've done
whats so difficult to unlock the netlock? Whats the problem ? have apple a new unlock generation?
It's like APT versus RPM
APT was always better at package management, period.
Same has for pwned 2.0, just another trick.
Anyway, thanks for the great job and take your time. We can all live with our pwned fw 2.0, it is not so important than to come from 1.xx to 2.0.
I couldn't care less about Installer. Unlock is *the* primary reason for PwnageTool existence. Delaying it to include some additional software is annoying.
You wouldn't get excited about a new version of InstallShield for Windows would you?!
The real reason people should be waiting for the next version is just so that we can benefit from the new official Apple firmware and still use our cydia/cracked apps.
BTW sweet deal ReP DeV
Installer = Cydia + Background/Multiple Downloads with the ability to pause and a repository format that is 10 times faster than the old one. And a much friendlier GUI.
How can you like Cydia better.
Are you people fucking retarded?
Every single developer/repository older will go with Installer 4. Why?
Bandwidth. The new repo format uses much less bandwidth which is good for us and them.
You people are mentally thick.
I would like to help as much as possible, and possible start by being a mirror for downloading this release if you need another mirror that is.
I have an IPOWER account which i would be more than happy to share as a download source. I get 15000.00 GB of monthly bandwidth from them which I would be happy to share for the growth of this community.
If the iphone-dev team is interested in my offer, don't hesitate to email me and we'll get an ftp set up for you.
but, my 3G is useless as a "Phone" untill it gets UNLOCKed
I am new to this iPhone(iTouch) Pwnage. I want to take this opportunity to say, "Thank You". I have worked on code earlier in life (before I became a cog in the machine), and I understand the hard work and frustration that you endure. The work you do does not go unappreciated.
Thank You.
-Mark
Keep up the good work and release it whenever you guys feel like its ready.
I rather wait and know that when I use your tool my phone will be operational than totally fuck it up!
If that happens to your phones, don't come complaining to the iPhone-Dev team!
PS: Add a donate button for you guys, I'd like to thank you.
As for Cydia vs. Installer debate - I'm glad Installer is finally out, gives me an alternative to Cydia.
MERGE!!!!
(i'm from germany, and here it's 5 pm ...)
after i ded the pwing
now my phone dosnt even turn on i have tryed every singl step on the net all what i get is error 1604
1 - I would love to see a 'Donate' Button. I want to buy Dev Team a beer.
2 - I would prefer Dev Team delay as long as they need to in order to ensure a stable release.
No 'rush to market'. Take your time boys!
PLEASE HELP...................SOS CALL!!
also it means hurry the fuck up
por favor ( please in spanish)
por fagora (please in italian )
mercy ( thanks in french)
also it means hurry the fuck up
por favor ( please in spanish)
por fagora (please in italian )
mercy ( thanks in french)
Keep it up :)
http://***.*****.***/video_assets/PwnageTool_2....
I must say not only am I impressed with their diligence and respect for the community, but extremely blown away by the quality of their work. Good on you guys, keep it up, and I look forward to this release as well as future ones.
We, the iphone users, should be very gratefully with the Dev Team.
Please think before posting such a comments!
DevTeam do not have any responsibility to release any new pwnage Tool version, they just do it for fun and free!
DevTeam please, don't pay attention to crap comments!
Keep the good work on!
take your time dev ! we will wait :)
-The majority really appreciate the development team and are thankful for what they have done - they respect their decision, but disagree with it (most seem happy to wait, but wish the didn't have to).
-The majority would have preferred to see the 2.0.2 release rather than wait for Installer 4 (and a beta version at that).
-The majority would like all unofficial apps to be distributed through one installer, and the winner seems to be Cydia (having two installers on 1.1.4 was a pain).
I just hope the release isn't delayed because ripdev doesn't give out the public beta at the promised time (cause I don't really care about Installer)
I'll be posting again if I have any problems :P
Impatience for firmware 2.0.1 is the key to me, that's why I'm tending to think "Gah, fuck Installer!".
But Devs just... take your time, and rightly so.
I don't know, Installer or Cydia... Whatever...: I'm sure they both will have nice software available for our "humans".
What I really can't do without is the ablilty to dig (and mess=) into the phone and the iPod at my will though, sshing!
Keep up the great job, DevTeam!
Deep loving thanks,
Francesco
Take all the time you need.
Greeting from Germany.
Remember that the devteam does this for fun. Its free, it works and they keep us updated. Still not happy???? Its funny because I see a lot of madness in these posts and once the tool is released, I find these same idiots on other forums trying to figure out what they did wrong because their phones don't work anymore. What is the rush to go to 2.0.1?????? If your phone is working, waiting a few days to ensure that the tool is dummy proof (because we all know there are tons of dumb asses in the world) will not kill you. If it pisses you off this much that they are delaying it, well maybe you should ask to be part of the team so that you can commit yourself and all of your spare time to helping people for FREE!!!!!!!
Therefore, I congratulate the devteam for their efforts and guys, take the time it takes. Let the impatient losers upgrade to 2.0.1 and lose the jailbreak. Heck they seem to want this update so bad, let them fuck up their phone and cry about it because they could'nt wait a day or two.
I for one enjoy everything these guys do including the "columbo" clues that they left us to brainstorm on when they were working on the pwnage tool for 2.0. Guys, I'm having a beer on you today for putting up with all of this shit and losers who can't appreciate the good things in life even when they are free.
Power to the devteam..........
Will PwnageTool 2.0.2 work with the newest Apple firmware release 2.0.1???
Please someone from the DevTeam respond to this as I think it's a question that still many of us are looking to have answered. Thanks in advance guys... GREAT JOB BTW!!!
Next time please try reading a bit more carefully, because the dev team explained it all very well...
the more we get, the happier i'll be. :-D i love your job dev-team and being patient is something I always do.
Again, thanks.
Im not in a hurry. Im just looking forward to test your new creation along with 2.0.1 so hope you are doing it today. i imagine the amount of work youve been doing so a big congratulation to all the team members.
Greetings from sunny 30+ degrees Madrid.
m.
Take all the time you need guys!
i am truly puzzled.
as i was waiting impatiently for the release, i decided to just upgrade my phone to 2.0.1
when it finished, i realized that my 2G phone was unlocked but cydia was not there. i stopped it from syncing and i sshed into my iphone and put in cydia from there. i thought it will not work cause it was not jail broken. but amazingly it worked . i have cydia and a lot of apps from cydia!
can anyone explain?
HOW LONG WE HAVE TO WAIT?
Greetings from Shaiz
go dev team =)
Oh and swisscom's iPhone policy sucks. Reminds me a lot of an old Seinfeld episode...
will see pwnage when it comes, take you time guys. drink beer, smoke pot. you deserve a break too.
thanks for the hard work
thanks for the hard work
EVEN WHEN SOME OF THIS PEOPLE DO NOT APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO!!!
Installer 4.0 beta .... We shall see! 2.5 Hours !
Thank you!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
Nobody said PwnageTool will come out Friday!!!!!
cydia is about as user friendly as possible...
tap and download... bam done
any more user-friendliness is too much, theres no need...
Any chance of the development of a feature that disables/removes this in the future?
Any chance of the development of a feature that disables/removes this in the future?
lol cant wait!
Installer works Now!!!!!!!
Installer works Now!!!!!
Great work!
Q: will this release work for Windows as well as Mac users?
Appreciate any help - Andy IPhone 8gb o2 uk 2.1
i have an iphone 2g 8gb
i upgraded to 2.0.2 for some odd reason
please help im trying to downgrade to 1.1.4 and thats not even working
first comment AGAIN !
greetz
You should edit your post :P
Greetings from Belgium
"Just Do It"
you definitely should keep those dick-heads away from your blogs
Danimator K, here's a plan, How about enough of these silly "mystery" dates, saying "soon, soon soon". Grow up a little, and just give a firm release date. This has gotten completely and utterly ridiculous with this "it's coming soon..." nonsense. Either release the frickin' thing, or post a comment that says "It's not done yet, we don't know when it'll be done" and get over yourselves.
And another:-
Danimator Ya, let's hope it's this Sunday, wouldn't surprise me with these guys if it wasn't after all this weeks cryptic nonsense...lol
Sorry for being so aggressive but it pisses my off.....
Thanks Dev Team... don't listen to these idiots.
Thanx for the hard work!! :)
thx
READ http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/44768633/to-upd...
fair enough not everyone has the technical know-how, but there is simply NO EXCUSE for people not reading basic, spoon fed instructions that a fvcking 5yr old could understand.
To your question, yes.
you're a fuckhead and to immature to wait.
Silly impatient javi!
D'oh!
Thank you for all your hard work devteam you guys are great!
you all haters are bitching the ones which are helping damn over 1 million people !
is it so hard not to flame and to be thankful?
to write a damn software is not their job ! they are doing everything 4 free !
if you think you could do it better - go on!
show us all how you could make it !
the devteam is full with great people willing to help other!
i cant understand how people can flame other which are doing a service 4 free...
dev team i got a locked 3g BUT please NEVER EVER post a date of the release !
you will only receive flames of this shitty people here !
Keep up the good work and even better jobs will wait for you I think, ;)
Btw! I love your Work and the effort you do for all of us!
Thankers!
I need It , my iphone is block !!!!
just unblock it man
its too easy
and why the rush guys
its working right
so why the rush for installer 4.0
(there arent allot off apps now cause its just PWNED (and i dont think that apple will make very nice tp stuff just for the illegal persons (hackers) out there
But I guess there may be a small chance it will.
Hey Dev Team, when Installer 4 is included with 2.0.2, will it work with OS 2.0.1 and will we have to Re-Pwn to get it or can we SSH it in? Personally I want to Restore to remove the nasty "Downloads What IT Wants When IT wants" Cydia. Can you also tell me if 2.0.2 is coming in the next few hour?
Thankers!"
warning: newfag
Cydia doesnt 'download what it wants' you fucking retard. they are called dependencies and are required to run the applications you install. installer does the same thing except it downloads them multiple times for each app, eating up more space. heard of
BSD Subsystem' ? get a clue before you post a stupid fucking comment.
Hey Zibri,
WOW! Everything you do, from going out of your way to make perfect jailbreaking software, to updating an astounding blog, stuns me. Thank you so much for doing everything you do for us helpless Ipod Touch/Iphone users.
I had a quick question though. I hope you don't mind! I was wondering if you thought restoring my Ipod Touch to the 2.0.1 firmware would be risky or not. If you can't respond, that's fine! I know you must be a very busy guy! By the way, don't let anyone bug you about the 2.0 firmware jailbreak. They don't understand how hard it is. I think people need to get off your back a little.
Anyways, thanks again for everything you've done!!!
-Austin
Btw awsome work
but no, you have to cry here. people like you need to learn about respect and patience.
GG
It's unfortunate that PwnageTool now has another 'external dependency'. When PwnageTool 2.0 first came out, we all became frustrated with words like "soon". Now RipDev is saying "almost". What is *their* definition of "almost"???
In my humble opinion, it would be better to have Installer just be a 'drop-in' package (PwnageTool supports that, right?), and that package could be released independently of PwnageTool.
Sorry to complain - I really don't mean to (and I REALLY appreciate all of your work!). It's just frustrating (again) waiting all day for a release "within the next few hours" only to find out that it's not today.
Oh well, I guess I'll go back to refreshing my browser starting tomorrow :)
- Paulb
I know that you realize that you probably shouldn't have given that 'promise'. But, you did, and that makes people frustrated when you change your mind. If you had found some major bug and withdrew the release date, that would be one thing. But, to change your minds in order to include some optional 'beta' software that many people are fine doing without: that is what causes the frustration.
And, I realize you're probably tired, but *your* response to me was very bastard-like, IMO. I thought my comment was simply expressing an opinion - your response was over the top, IMO. Again, I assume (hope) that it's just because you are all tired/stressed from the project - but I don't appreciate the reply.
I'm sorry if my original post offended you - I didn't mean for it to. As I said, I'll go back to refreshing my browser tomorrow (and I REALLY DO APPRECIATE all of your work - even if you think I'm a bastard).
- Paulb
- Paulb
I think it says a lot that a great tool like PwnageTool is free, where (so far) crappy MobileMe cost me $$$'s. I can only hope that MobileMe will get better as time goes on...
include/or/not installer 4 beta in the new release!
i stand for no!
let the guys finnish testing or whatever and have a proper version 4 in the near future as a drop-in package in cydia's repository
cheers
I'm pleasantly surprised that you guys come back after every blog post and keep give us status on it, not to mention new versions of it! keep up the good work & know that there are people out here who realize what kind of effort you guys are putting into this. And who appreciate you for it.
It does not matter which way you decide ... there will ALWAYS be people on the "other" side!!!
:-)
So do what you think is best for all and go have that beer. ;)
cheers guys
You CAN do whatever you want, but people would respect you more if you valued their opinions, just like you want them to value yours. That's why you shared your plans, right?
Or you could be completely closed off like a fortune 500 company!
So shut the fuck up about valuing opinions and what not. Have you seen all the criticizing and hatred that's going on here? I'm glad that iphonedev even takes the time to answer any posts. They could be doing things that benefit them alot more than this. (And those things definitely don't involve anything to your benefit)
If you don't want criticism or feedback, don't post anything. Aetherius simply wanted to start a poll to see if he's not the only one with that opinon. That's what comments are for.
It's a community. Not just a bunch of ass kissing or "STFU" if you got an opinion.
- Leave your bloody phone locked
- Program your own "hack"
If you're on iphone 2g, I have a third proposition:
- Get an ATT Card
Do you have a bloody idea what this tool would cost you if you'd have to pay the programmers on a daily basis?
Do you have a f***** clue that they probably have a real-life, family, girlfrieds, kids?
To all people moaning around here: It's really a shame.
They DO a really good job. They really deserve more respect.
If they say they'd wait for Installer 4 they wait for installer 4. They know the inside of the phone probably way better than any of us here.
Kind Regards!
scnr
Ah, just a not to the "Reloaders": Ever thought of what the green stuff outside your window could be?
or shut the fuck up and wait like everyone else.
either one works
thought id check this b4 i went, hope no coplications dev team, i even installed mac leopard on my vista laptop just to try this
hold tite
:-)
no need for experimental shortcuts ...